View Full Version : OT- north korean nuke weapon plutonium - source?
patrick mitchel
August 29th 03, 06:13 AM
What's the source of the material that the north koreans are using to make
their nukes. Does it come from their own reactors? It's being described in
the press as "reprocessed nuclear fuel rods". Are they getting the stuff
from sources in the west ?
As an aside- interesting that the 2 countries that have troops in Iraq have
suffered electrical grid problems that have affected their 2 primary
cities... Pat
Simon Robbins
August 29th 03, 05:00 PM
"patrick mitchel" > wrote in message
...
> As an aside- interesting that the 2 countries that have troops in Iraq
have
> suffered electrical grid problems that have affected their 2 primary
> cities... Pat
What's more, I believe at least 500,000 people in both cities ate carrots
that day. Surely a more convincing and coincidental statistic?
Si
Keith Willshaw
August 29th 03, 05:17 PM
"patrick mitchel" > wrote in message
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> What's the source of the material that the north koreans are using to make
> their nukes. Does it come from their own reactors? It's being described in
> the press as "reprocessed nuclear fuel rods". Are they getting the stuff
> from sources in the west ?
No , from their own reactors
> As an aside- interesting that the 2 countries that have troops in Iraq
have
> suffered electrical grid problems that have affected their 2 primary
> cities... Pat
>
>
The powercut in London lasted for less than an hour in most parts
and was down to failure of main and standby equipment.
**** happens
Keith
Ed Majden
August 29th 03, 05:39 PM
"Keith Willshaw" <
> > What's the source of the material that the north koreans are using to
make
> > their nukes. Does it come from their own reactors? It's being described
in
> > the press as "reprocessed nuclear fuel rods". Are they getting the stuff
> > from sources in the west ?
>
Is there any external radiation from a nuclear weapon or warhead?
Plutonium must emit some radiation, how is this shielded? I would think
lead would work but would be very heavy negating the transportation of say a
suitcase nuclear device. What about depleted uranium? I think this may be
like beryllium. Not dangerous unless ingested.
Keith Willshaw
August 29th 03, 07:40 PM
"Keith Willshaw" > wrote in message
news:...
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> Yes but not much, the specific activity of Pu-238 is only 0.063 curies per
> gram
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Correction - that should be PU-239
Keith
Tarver Engineering
August 29th 03, 07:47 PM
"Keith Willshaw" > wrote in message
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> "Keith Willshaw" > wrote in message
> news:...
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> > Yes but not much, the specific activity of Pu-238 is only 0.063 curies
per
> > gram
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> Correction - that should be PU-239
Duh.
Ed Majden
August 29th 03, 08:18 PM
"Keith Willshaw
> Yes but not much, the specific activity of Pu-238 is only 0.063 curies
per
> > gram
> >
>
> Correction - that should be PU-239
>
Keith:
Reason I asked is, I had a thyroid problem some years ago and got
radiation treatment for it. I was told by the nuclear medicine types to go
into this room. On the table I would find a lead lined container which
contained the radiation pill. I was told to swallow it and then tell them
when I was done. Hell, they wanted me to swallow it and not even be in the
same room with the stuff when removed from the protective container. :-) I
was told to stay away from young children for a few month until this stuff
decayed. My job required me to ware a film badge and dosimeter. Didn't
think much about it at the time, but these two detectors are read on a
specific scheduled. Mine of course read a high exposure reading so they got
quite excited until I told them I had had thyroid radiation treatment. This
radiation lasted for about a year until it was too weak to be picked up by
the detectors.
Ed
Walt BJ
August 30th 03, 04:19 AM
If you're really interested in how the NKs got Pu239 check out a book
from the library - the process and cautions necessary are too lengthy
and complicated for a message, but rather easily understood.
Walt BJ
Keith Willshaw
August 30th 03, 12:26 PM
"Ed Majden" > wrote in message
. ca...
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> "Tarver Engineering"
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> > I think you probably got radioactive iodine.
> >
> Yes, it was radioactive iodine. It goes directly to the thyroid where
> it does its thing!
>
>
Iodine 123 and 124 are MUCH more active than Plutonium and their
half lives are measured in days not thousands of years
Tarver Engineering
August 30th 03, 03:53 PM
"Walt BJ" > wrote in message
m...
> If you're really interested in how the NKs got Pu239 check out a book
> from the library - the process and cautions necessary are too lengthy
> and complicated for a message, but rather easily understood.
Naah, it is really really simple and I already posted the process here.
tscottme
August 31st 03, 02:50 AM
patrick mitchel > wrote in message
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> As an aside- interesting that the 2 countries that have troops in
Iraq have
> suffered electrical grid problems that have affected their 2 primary
> cities... Pat
>
And the weasel country that tried hardest to keep Saddam in power lost
11,000 victims in a couple of weeks.
--
Scott
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Tarver Engineering
August 31st 03, 04:01 AM
"tscottme" > wrote in message
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> patrick mitchel > wrote in message
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> >
> > As an aside- interesting that the 2 countries that have troops in
> Iraq have
> > suffered electrical grid problems that have affected their 2 primary
> > cities... Pat
> >
>
> And the weasel country that tried hardest to keep Saddam in power lost
> 11,000 victims in a couple of weeks.
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